[Sean Hannity interviewed Donald Trump on Air Force One en route to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia from Joint Base Andrews via RAF Mildenhall in the United Kingdom. The interview was recorded in flight on May 12, 2025. The first part of the interview aired on Fox News' "Hannity" on May 13, 2025. The second part will air on May 14, 2025.
[Both parts are included in this transcript. ✧ AI was used to remove the airplane noise from the audio. Video courtesy and copyright Fox News' "Hannity"]
Now, here's part one of my exclusive interview with President Trump aboard Air Force One. Mr. President.
[Part 1 of the pre-recorded interview on Air Force One begins]
Hi, thank you very much.
Okay. By the way, we're on a beautiful Air Force One. Uh, not a bad plane.
Not bad at all, not bad at all. It's a beautiful plane and we're doing a lot of business and we have a lot of good things happening.
N- -- okay, so this is an amazing week so far. You get a deal with China. I'm just gonna list it and then we can get into detail. India and Pakistan, played a big role. Hopefully the peace stands. You slash prescription drug prices. Most favored nation, the American people will get first dibs in terms of prices, the last American hostage has been released.
You've got -- we're on this trip to Saudi Arabia, Qatar. There's not much going on in your life, is there?
Well, I've been busy but I've enjoyed it because we're getting things accomplished. We're getting things done. You know, you can have times when you're working very hard and not getting things done. That happens too. But we're getting a lot done. I don't think there's ever been a little period like this with the potential nuclear war and, uh, two countries.
They have very good leaders, people I know very well. And you know, it was, uh, it was a very important process. We got involved with India and Pakistan.
You got involved early. Can you give us a little insight? What happened behind the scenes? How were you able --
Well, I did like what was happening and, uh, you hear -- you know, there're two very strongly nuclear countries. Very, very powerful amount of nuclear too. Serious stuff. And if that ever started, boy, that's the beginning of something that could be really bad. Even a minimal, minimal. You could have millions of people killed.
And with one shot, two shots. And I just thought it was something we could get involved in. And, uh, I did a good job. Marco did a good job and JD did a good job, we sort of were a team. And we, I think, convinced him to let's have peace and let's go and make trade deals. If we can make trade deals, we like that much better than nuclear weapons.
And, uh, that was, that was a great thing. And we did a good job with the Houthis, uh, stop with the shooting of the ships. They, uh, like shooting ships down --
Is that a done deal? 'Cause there's been conflicting reports that some of their leaders are saying, "Oh, that's not true."
Well, it is with respect to America. Now, you know, you can't always count on somebody necessarily telling the truth. But their surrogates were very strong, very powerful. Uh, very good relationship with them. You know, they're tough fighters. They can take a lot of punishment, but, uh, they, uh -- with respect to America, they say it's true.
So we'll see. You'll know. You'll be the first to know, won't you?
Oh, I follow the news closely. I read everything. I think the biggest surprise from this weekend -- it was a week ago Friday, where I saw that China announced, quote, "If the President is serious, we will be willing to negotiate with him." And Scott Bessent, your Treasury Secretary, met with their representatives in Geneva on Saturday.
On Monday, y- -- you're announcing a trade -- well, actually on Sunday you announced a deal with China.
Yeah.
How did that happen that quickly?
Well, they met on Saturday and Sunday and they had a deal pretty much from the beginning. It was the concept of a deal. And, uh, you know, one of the things that -- uh, as you know, it's sort of a ninety-day deal as we negotiate other aspects. But one of the things I think that could be most exciting for us and also for China, is that we're trying to open up China.
Because as you know, many years ago, we opened up the USA. Now it's time for China to open up, and that's part of our deal. And we're gonna open up China. And to me that's the most exciting part. But yeah, we made a deal. The relationship is very good. I've always had a good relationship with President Xi. It was interrupted because of COVID, obviously.
But, uh, outside of that I've always had a great relationship, a lot of respect for him. And, uh, we'll see how that all works out. But we have the confines of a very, very strong deal with China. But the most exciting part of the deal, we -- it was mentioned, but we -- we don't talk about it yet. That's the opening up of China to US business.
And that would be like opening up a whole new world, and I think it would be even better for China. So I think we'll be able to make that deal, I hope.
At any point, do you foresee yourself dealing directly with President Xi on the final details of this deal?
Yeah, I could see that. I mean, I'm not sure that it'll be necessary but, uh, that happened with the UK. We were close to a deal but we -- we needed one point or two points, uh, on pork and ethanol. Okay. Two very different subjects. And I called up the Prime Minister, who's an excellent man, Keir. Excellent man.
And, uh, within about, uh, three minutes it was over. We made the deal. It was a good deal for everybody. And we have a lot of deals now. We have a lot of trade deals that want -- I -- I'd say virtually everybody wants to make a deal.
Mm, w- -- uh, when -- when I first, uh, saw you -- and -- and thank you for letting us cover this and report on this on -- from Air Force One. When I first saw you, I think you were more excited -- you were excited about the China deal. But prescription drugs; which has been very, very painful for a lot of Americans. 80% of medications are created in America, and then we end up paying more for those medications.
Foreign countries do not pay as much as we do, you said that is over. Can you explain why this is such a big deal?
Well, for many years, we were taken advantage of by other countries and the drug companies, but I blame the other countries in a way more, the European Union, et cetera. They were very nasty and very tough to the drug companies and, uh, they would give them a very low price for drug costs in the European nations.
And when that price was given, that was it. They wouldn't negotiate. They -- they said, "Let America pay for the difference," and this happened all over the world with other countries. And we had stupid people leading us and -- especially over the last four years. And they wouldn't do anything about it. And it turned out that we were paying and sometimes you saw 10 times more for the same drug.
Same drug, same company, same plant where they make it, laboratory. And it got to a point where I said, "We're not gonna do this anymore." The -- the pharmaceutical industry is very powerful and probably the most powerful, consider the most powerful lobby. And, uh, the Democrats were making it impossible to lower drug prices.
They knew what they were doing. And, uh, I instituted a Most-Favored-Nations provision or concept where we're gonna pay whatever the lowest country pays in the world. So if it's, uh, the UK which pays very low and -- and any country. It could be any country, whatever the lowest price is. And the drug companies have accepted it. Everybody accepts it. But the Democrats never wanted to play ball, they never wanted to do anything.
It's the Democrats' fault that people were being ripped off for years and years. And now, I hear Democrats saying, "Oh, well, we're gonna now go for the bill." It's gonna be very hard for them not to approve the big beautiful bill that we're doing. We're doing the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country, because, uh, people are gonna be getting a 50 to a 90% reduction in drug prices.
Not a half a percent. I remember when I would fight so hard to get a half a point and I actually had it down a half a point for one year. And I was so proud of myself 'cause that never happened before. It was always going up. Drugs only went in one direction. That's up. And now, after studying the industry, it's a very complex industry, but I figured it out and I said, "It's not gonna happen." But the Democrats fought very hard to keep the prices of drugs very, very high.
They are really ought to blame for this because they should have done something about it. And when the Republicans went with requests, they -- they said, "We're not gonna approve it." And now, we have a unified Republican party. But I think the Democrats are gonna approve this bill too, because how are they gonna reject a 60, 70, 80% drug cut?
Mm-hmm.
I don't think they can.
I -- I think it's gonna be huge. The fact that these drugs are ma- -- the creation of these drugs. I mean, these companies have to go through a very arduous process to get approval --
That's right.
-- by the government. They spend billions of dollars, um, and put -- put aside whether or not "people demonize big pharma". That's separate and apart. However, we usually end up creating them and then we end up paying 10 times more, which is crazy. Um --
Well, they used to use that -- if I could interrupt. They used to use that as a reason why we were paying 5 and 10 times more than other countries. They say, "Because of research and development," and I'd always say, "Well, what about you doing research and development for the rest of the world too? Why are we paying for 100%?" So we paid 100% for research and development.
Which along with other things, believe it or not, raised the price to -- to a point where you were 5 to 10 times higher than the rest of the world. And I told the story today, it was well-received. A friend of mine who's, uh, slightly overweight, to put it mildly, went to a drug store in London and he was able to get one of the fat shots.
I call it the fat shots --
[Laughs]
-- the jabs that you lose weight --
By the way --
Who knows?
-- a lot of people laugh at that. Some people get offended by -- I don't get offended by anything. It's --
I'm -- I'm just glad I didn't use his name.
[Laughs]
He's actually a very rich guy. He's a very successful guy --
I bet he's glad you didn't use his name.
No, no. He's very happy.
Oh.
He knows exactly who I was talking about. He called. He said [Laughs] -- that was interesting. He said he was very concerned that I might use his name. I might slip. Now, he doesn't have to worry. But he went to London and he bought this, uh --
Ozempic? Wegovy? One of those?
I guess. Yeah, I'm not sure which one --
The --
But he bought -- he bought one of them. Maybe Ozempic. Uh, and he bought it and he s- -- told me, he said, "Hey, I -- strange thing happened. I just bought a drug. Same company, same plant, same everything, everything was the same. In one case, I paid in New York $1,300 and in London, I'm paying $88." He said, "What's going on?" Now, he knew nothing.
He's a very smart guy. He's a very rich guy. His big problem is he's seriously overweight, but I don't think the drug worked, okay? To be honest with you. But it makes him feel good anyway. But so what happens is he just -- he said to me, uh, "I paid $88 and in New York I get it for 1,300 or something," a massive difference.
And I said, "That's right. The drug laws are very screwed up and I'm doing something about it." He said, "You better because this is crazy." He didn't understand it, but -- he -- he didn't understand why and now, he understands why 'cause he watched our news conference this morning holding his breath, right?
But he watched this news conference and -- But think of it. So he goes to London and a lot of people go shopping in, uh, nearby or even far away countries. And they'll go away once a month or once a week or something if it's a nearby country. They'll go right across the border and they'll buy the same drug for one-tenth of price as we pay in the United States.
And, uh, a part of is the power of the drug companies which is a very big power. But I think a bigger part is the ruthlessness of other nations to screw the United States of America. And the European Union would be the top because they represent a lot of countries and they're brutal. And according to the drug companies told me this, they're brutal in negotiations.
They say, "This is what we're gonna pay. We're not gonna pay anymore. And if you need more, you get it from America." And so they get a low price so we get a high price. And I ended it. And this has been going on for many years, but nobody realized that you could do. I think I figured out the system, very complex chain of events take place.
And, uh, I ended it. And I have to say, the drug companies were great. They were great. They, they said, "Look, it's time." They actually looked, they said, "It's time."
[Commercial break]
The UAE has committed 1.5 trillion, Saudi Arabia, 1 trillion. Uh, a -- apparently you had ordered a new Air Force One in your first term. It's, they're years behind in terms of its production. Has --
It's a Boeing. And when I came to office, uh, the Obama people had ordered it, but I, they didn't sign yet, so I was supposed to sign. They were at about 5.7 trillion. It's actually, as you know, it's Air Force One is actually two, uh, Boeing 747s. And they had agreed to a price of 5.7 billion. And through a series of little negotiations, I got it down very, very substantially by a lot.
With the new design?
With the -- well, it was pretty much the same plane with the new paint color, if you wanna know the truth. We're painting it red, white, and blue like the American flag, which is incredible. More, much more beautiful and much more representative of, of us. So anyway, I got the price way down by a lot, and ordered it. And when I came, I said, "The, the plane, where's the plane?" And they said, "It's late." And I said, "Why would it be late?" You know, I went through a whole term and, uh, where we had an election that was absolutely rigged.
And because of that, this is a much more historic presidency, I would say. But, uh, I said, "Where's the plane?" And they are having difficulty. I'm not happy with Boeing, but we're gonna work on Boeing and Boeing's -- look, Boeing's got some unbelievable people working for it, so I'm not gonna do anything bad to Boeing.
But, uh, they had a, a strong contract. I wrote the contract, it was a guaranteed price contract, and if I wanted to, I could, you know, hurt Boeing. And I don't wanna hurt Boeing, but they're very late with the plane. And, uh, Qatar heard about it, and he's a great leader. And, uh, we were talking and he said, "If I can help you, let me do that." And they had a plane.
Not a new plane at all, but, uh, they had a plane. And you know, these planes, the plane that you're on right now is almost 40 years old. And when you land and you see Saudi Arabia and you see UAE and you see Qatar and you see all these, and they have these brand new Boeing 747s mostly, and you see ours next to it, this is like, a totally different plane.
It's much smaller, it's much less impressive, as impressive as it is. And you know, we're the United States of America, I believe that we should have the most impressive plane. So anyway, so they said to me, uh, "We would like to, in effect, we would like to make a gift. You've done so many things and, uh, we'd like to make a gift to the Defense, Defense Department," which is where it's going.
And they said, "Well, that's nice." Now, some people say, "Oh, you shouldn't accept gifts for the country." My attitude is, why wouldn't I accept a gift? We're giving to everybody else, why wouldn't I accept a gift? Because it's gonna be a couple of years, I think, before the Boeings are finished. And, uh, and they'll be wonderful when they're finished.
But that's a long time.
Isn't part of your argument how the United States has paid untold billions and trillions of dollars securing every, every aspect of the world?
Well, I said that. I said, you know, we've secured that part of the world for many years. So if somebody makes a gift -- and I'm not getting, I get nothing, I get to fly it like any other president would. Uh, ultimately it'll be, uh, at the end of its lifetime or at the end of the term, because we're gonna have the other ones in by that time, it'll be decommissioned.
[Begins talking over Trump] So the US has kind of given them gifts. It's called national defense.
Yeah.
And security.
No, we, we give a lot of gifts. We give too many gifts, to be honest with you. We give gifts to defend countries. They wouldn't even exist, many countries wouldn't even exist. All over the world, countries wouldn't even exist. Uh, but I thought it was a beautiful gesture. Now, there are those that say, "We shouldn't be accepting gifts to the Defense Department." And I would say only a stupid person would say that.
Why wouldn't we do that? And so it helps us out because we'll have a relatively new plane. Uh, instead of having 40-year-old planes. These planes are 40 years old, and that's not representative of our country.
Let me, uh, go to the other side. And that's the national security equation. And I know every one of these countries that we will be stopping at here, and we'll be reporting on, on this show, every one of them is worried about one country, and that is Iran. Number one state sponsor of terror, and obviously the Iranians, you've been very, very clear.
They can't get a nuke.
Right.
They can enrich. According to published reports, they could be three to six months away from being a nuclear power.
There won't be a nuclear power. Let, let me just explain. I'm all for Iran. I want them to have a wonderful country and make a lot of money. They have great oil reserves. But if you remember when I was president, Iran was broke because I placed secondary sanctions, meaning you couldn't buy, uh, if you bought oil, you couldn't deal with the United States.
And people make a lot of money dealing with the United States. So basically they weren't selling any oil to almost anybody. It was down to a trickle, almost nothing. And by the time it all came about after a couple of years, they were essentially, they had no money. And, uh, they didn't have money for Hamas, they didn't have money for Hezbollah.
They didn't have any money at all, and we had no threat. And when Biden came in, he took off the sanctions and he let them get very rich. And now they have $350 billion or more, which is a tremendous amount. They made great wealth. With oil you make great month, quick, you know, great, great money, great wealth, quickly.
And, uh, they have tremendous oil and tremendous reserves. And, uh, Biden freed them up from what I did.
[End of Part 1 that aired on May 13, 2025 on Fox News' "Hannity"]
[Beginning of Part 2 that aired on May 14, 2025 on Fox News' "Hannity"]
There are many legs to your economic plan that you're laying out. One is one of the trade deals. Second is, tax cuts permanent, no tax tips, no tap tax social security.
Right.
No tax overtime. Another leg would be energy.
Interest deduction on cars. Remember that?
That's big.
So it's no tax on tips no tax on Social Security benefits for seniors, which is so great. Think of it. And no tax on overtime. But, there's a fourth leg that I think is really important, of that, where middle income people, but any people, if you buy a car made in America only, I'm not interested if it's made anywhere else, I couldn't care less.
But if it's made in America, you get and you borrow money to buy the car, which I guess 80% of the people do, you get a tax deduction on your interest payments. That's a big deal. That's never happened before.
A big deal for people that are buying cars. But --
That's a huge --
-- The one --
-- That's a huge game changer for the car industry too.
-- Huge. I think one part that you can't control, although maybe you really can because you have such influence with the Republican party, is the one big beautiful bill, you put out a big statement on that today. Um, and how confident are you having spent time with majority leader, Thune, Speaker of the House, Johnson?
First of all, Johnson and Thune have been unbelievable. They've done a great job. Their, their soul is into this, their, their whole heart and soul, and they're working so hard. And it's always tough when you have a very small, you know, we have a majority, but it's by, in the Senate, three votes. And in the Republican in the, in Congress, it's seven.
Now it was one for a period of time. We won some elections in the meantime. But it was actually one. So now it's seven. And, I would say this. Even before this big, uh, drug and, uh, if you take a look, the, the cuts that I announced today. If you take a look at the pharmaceutical and drug cuts, they're so massive that I think a lot of Democrats have to vote for the bill, number one.
Number two, even if I didn't do this today, even if there was no such thing as these, you know, 50 to a 90% cuts, I mean, think of it where we're buying you, you're selling drugs in other countries for five times more than it cost in the United States. How horrible that is. Anyway, but that's, uh, gonna be a thing of the past.
Some of them are they're cancer drugs too sometimes.
Yeah, everything. It's very unfair. Very unfair to people. They have cancer and they don't have much money. They have enough money to get through this, but then they end up going bankrupt. You know, people were getting themselves fixed up or not getting fixed up, either way, and still they were going bankrupt all over the place because they couldn't afford the drugs.
But if they lived in a different country, they would've paid just a fraction. Think of how horrible that is. Anyway, so I fixed that. Nobody thought it was fixable and I fixed it. But even without that, I think we would've gotten the bill passed. Uh, with it, I think a lot of Democrats have to vote. I saw that a couple of Democrats said, "I'd like to be in charge of -- " I don't know if you saw that.
You have a couple of people that go on your show that I assume are moderate Democrats without mentioning names. And, uh, both of them said, "I don't know about you, but I think I'm gonna be voting for this bill." I think a lot of Democrats are gonna be forced to vote for the bill. 'Cause, you know, you add this new element that if this bill passes, you're gonna get a 50 to 90% reduction in prescription, uh, drugs and, uh, pharmaceuticals.
When you add that in, how does a Democrat not vote? I, I don't think they can win an election if they don't vote for it. But even if you don't include it, I think that the Republicans are very unified and something would happen where they will get this vote.
You know what?
I think it's imperative they vote.
But look at the Democratic party. Look at the leadership that's emerged. Jasmine Crockett, AOC, the Squad, Grandpa Bernie. They, they seem to be the most --
Well, look at Schumer. He turned out to be a Palestinian. I knew him right at the beginning. And I tell you what, Schumer has turned out -- we call him the Palestinian Senator. The, the senator from Palestine. Palestine. Uh, no, Chuck Schumer is, uh, -- very disappointed.
-- Is he afraid to go against that radical base?
I think he's afraid. Yeah. I think he is a -- I watch him. He's lost his confidence, totally. He, I just watched Chuck Schumer. I've known him so long and he's in the other party, but, you know, I've known the guy so long, he's totally lost his confidence.
You know, you, it's, it's interesting, we're we're talking about the, the radicalism of the left. And what's really fascinating is, you take up a lot of space in their head. Y- -- and it's funny you, you said, "How could they possibly vote against lower prescription drug costs?" But in the US Senate, the Democrats were championing the right of men to play women's sports.
They've been the, the, the party of fighting for the rights of illegals, even Tren de Aragua, Abrego Garcia, et cetera. The -- they're the party that thinks it's a constitutional crisis that you and DOGE have had a -- what, nearly $200 billion in waste, fraud, and abuse. They think that's a constitutional --
Yeah.
-- crisis. So you're asking how could they be that extreme? Aren't they that extreme?
Well, not all of 'em. I think you have a lot of 'em that, um, they don't know where they are right now. I think they don't know what to do. Like men playing in women's sports. I saw a guy that I know, good guy, Democrat, he's trying to justify, two days ago on television he's being hammered and he's trying to justify men playing in women's sports.
And it's sad.I wanted to call him and say, "You better get off that subject." That's not an 80/20, that's about a 97/3.
Yeah.
Okay? If they talk about, you know, the famous, they always say it's 80/20. What's not -- A lot of these things are not 80/20 like, uh, transgender for everybody. Let's have transgender for everybody. Your kids, everybody. That's not an 80/20. They always say that's 80/20. That's not, that's 99/1, I would say.
So look, in one way, I don't like talking about it because I don't want to talk 'em out of it because, you know, it would be harder to beat them if they were normal on things. It shows that they're almost insane and they do suffer from Trump derangement syndrome at a high level. And I guess I'm honored by that.
But I'll say this, look, we had an election. You were so wonderful to me. You, you were really an amazing professional. It's not, it's, you did it for the right reason. You didn't do it for the wrong reason, but you were so professional. And, uh, we won every swing state. We won the popular vote by a lot.
We won everything. We won a, a thing called that people don't like, districts. So in the country you have districts, thousands of districts. We got 2,750 districts versus 525 districts. Think of that. That's why when you look at a map, it's actually a very important, uh, stat. When you look at a map, the map shows it's practically all red, the Republican Party.
And this is a big party. You know, we won -- Look how well we did with the autoworkers. We won the Teamsters. The Teamsters were big for us. They were -- The unions were big, the non-unions were big. The Right to Work was massive. But the unions, we won unions all over the place. And, uh, we basically won workers.
We also won people of common sense, rich people, poor people, middle income people. We won sort of everybody, you know, if, if you take a look at the stats. You know, we did great with Hispanic. The Hispanic people came to us like nobody's ever seen before.
Well, you think the Republican Party is now the party of working men and women?
I do.
I me- -- you know, w- -- when you put out the threat of tariffs, it was interesting between countries and companies, and I wou- -- I would scroll the list on my TV show, pledging $8 trillion, trillion with a T, in manufacturing.
Yeah. More.
Chips, cars, pharmaceuticals, they're gonna manufacture back in this country. That was just a threat of tariffs. Now the deals are beginning to follow.
So we're, we're here for really two months because it's three and a half, but you gotta give me a month to get ready. You know, make the, make the, uh, oval office a little more beautiful and things like that, that we're doing, right? But so we're really here, let's say actively for two months. So in two months we have probably over $10 trillion committed, $10 trillion.
Whereas most presidents wouldn't have 1 trillion over the course of the entire presidency. And if you look at this, this poor soul, this lost soul from the last presidency. And I say that because he was a very mean person. They went after our people, including me. But he was a very mean person. He was a, not a smart person.
In fact, if you go back 30 years ago, he wasn't a smart person. You go back to prime time with him, he wasn't a smart person, but. But he was a very mean person. Joe Biden's a very mean person. People don't understand that. They've ruined lives, they've ruined families, they've ruined so many people. They could have ruined me. They tried to ruin me. But we're now in Air Force One flying nicely to, to Middle East, right?
But they tried to ruin me. Uh, but some people weren't able to fight back. Their families have been destroyed. On the level, he knew what was going on too.
[Commercial break]
I'd never been on Air Force One with you before and uh, but I did go to Helsinki, Singapore, and Vietnam. I was on those trips and I interviewed you on many of them. Do you ever think that maybe in the end, in spite of all that they threw at you, that it was better that you had a break between terms? Do you ever think about that?
Do you ever think, did you ever --
I have.
-- really think about, you took all of, they were after you so hard. You took all your chips, put them in the middle of the table and it was either here, Air Force One, the White House, or probably someplace that I don't even wanna mention.
I knew that running was very dangerous because I knew how evil these people were. I knew how they cheat, they steal, they lie. They're a horrible group of people. And I knew that if I ran, I, I exposed myself to a lot of danger, but I felt I had to. And especially after they started, they were so bad at running this country, they were destroying the country, open borders.
I didn't believe it 'cause I built hundreds of miles of wall and there was some areas that they should have built and I had, it was all ready to go up. It was gonna be put up in a matter of weeks. And they didn't do it. And I said, "Wow, they really are for open borders." They should have automatically done it. And after doing an incredible job building, literally hundreds and hundreds of miles of wall, and we were doing so good, and, you know, we had, we had the border really under control until he came in. And then he just opened it up and I said, "Wow, he really wants open borders." And then he actually announced he wants to have open borders.
And you know, that means people coming from all over the world, from prisons, from, from mental institutions, from gangs all over Venezuela and other countries. And, uh, no, I, I saw what they were doing. I felt I had to run. If I didn't run -- I, I really believe if I didn't win this election, uh, this country would be finished.
I don't think it h- -- would've had a chance of surviving. You would've had, you would've had the most radical lunatics. You would've had people rioting. It would've been the, this would've been the, the experiment of, you know, they call it the great experiment. The great experiment would've ended very badly.
You, s- -- but you personally put it all in the line. There was a lot, a lot r- -- obviously riding on this for the country.
I did.
And a lot riding on it personally for you 'cause you know what they wanted to do.
Yeah. No, they wanted to do whatever they could.
They did.
They wanted to have me locked up for 300 years. These are the worst human beings y- -- you've ever seen. It was a fight against his political opponent. They, and they, they said it, but it was a fight against his political opponent. They would've used any means possible. Look, Comey was horrible. They were all, these were all horrible people.
And I fired Comey, fortunately, very early, very early. But, you know, uh, they would've used whatever means possible. These are vicious people and Biden is a vicious person. Biden's a stupid person. He's a low IQ person, but he's vicious and that's a bad combination.
Last question. We have our first American pope. He does seem to disagree with you on immigration. Putting that aside, would you like to talk to him about that?
For sure. I mean, I would. It's, uh, he was, he was really a [Laughs] surprise choice. And I noticed on CNN yesterday, the Dana Bash was, uh, saying, "Well, this had nothing to do with, uh, Donald Trump." And, and nobody asked a question. And worse was on Stefa, I, I call him George Slopidopoulos, the sl- -- George Slopidopoulos show on ABC.
ABC's really bad. [Inaudible]
I call him Little Georgie, so we both have our own little name for him.
I know, but he's a bad guy, but he's a bad guy. Well, he had to pay me $16 million, so that's good.
My favorite was the interview with the guy, you didn't pick David Muir or Stefanopoulos. I don't even know who you are.
I had no idea.
I don't know if the media knows how to deal with all the access they finally have, which they haven't had in a long time.
No, I had no idea who he was, but he got a little nasty, so I explained that I just don't know who you are. Who are you? They, you know, they actually gave me a choice of anybody at ABC. And I picked this guy Moran because I never heard of him. So I said, "Let's use him because the others" --
That's the reason to pick him.