Note
[Pager wrote that he spoke briefly with Trump on the phone for 50 seconds. Neither a transcript or recording was made available but the full story on the brief interview is available here: https://cqrc.al/nyt-20260103]
Note
[Tyler Pager of The New York Times interviewed Donald Trump on the telephone on January 3, 2026 at 4:31 am, shortly after Trump announced the military action in Venezuela.]