Interview: Bev Turner of GB News Interviews Donald Trump - September 2, 2026

Mr. President, great to see you.

Thank you.

Since we last talked, we have a new Prime Minister in the UK in Andy Burnham. You had a very successful first phone call, by the sounds of things.

I did.

You haven't met him yet. What are your hopes for him and our country under his premiership?

Well, I love your country and I have a lot of relationship, as you know, through my mother with your country, Scotland. And frankly, we had a very good talk. And I told him, you have two problems immigration and energy. Energy, you can solve by going to the North Sea and becoming rich. You become rich. One of the great energy sources in the world.

And I know them all. I have Venezuela. I have the United States. I know them all. And the North Sea, the great North Sea oil is phenomenal. The environmental lunatics would have you believe, oh, there's not that much left. And you get a lot of your energy from the North Sea. You buy it from Norway and you've made Norway rich.

The UK has made Norway rich, or richer.

Yeah.

And they take it from the North Sea. But you don't, and you have a bigger part of the North Sea. So the North Sea oil is a goldmine for you, if they use it. So you can have either a rich nation or a poor nation. You have a very rich nation if you do the North Sea, because that's a big thing. The other is immigration.

If you don't stop people pouring into your country from all over the world, you're not going to have a country left.

There are riots tonight in Spain about the migration in Soweto --

Terrible.

-- and the Spanish people rising up against Sanchez, and trying to make their voices heard. Do you think any of the leaders across the West and Europe are taking this issue seriously enough?

No. I think I was. I took -- I took it very seriously. I closed our border. We haven't had a person come in coming illegally into our country through the southern border in 17 months now. They just announced, 17 months, nobody. Nobody gets in. And you could do the same thing and so could Spain. What's happened with Spain is an outrage.

When I look at it, it's so sad. It's going to ruin their whole country. It's going to ruin the system, it's going to ruin law and order. It's a different country. What are they doing?

And why is that? Why don't these European countries manage to put their [Inaudible]

Because -- well, I've been asking myself that question for a long time, why would people allow others to come in from other countries? Totally different people, totally different people. I mean, people that have no relationship to --

You mean different cultures, different religion?

-- to the culture, to anything, anything, any aspect of what's been taking place in Spain for so many decades or for centuries. Now, Spain will be a ruined country. You know, I've had my own problems with Spain because Spain doesn't behave very well with respect to NATO. They don't pay what they should be paying.

It's very sad. Other countries pay and they don't want to pay. They just say, we're not going to pay, and it's terrible. But what's happened there, and it's, you know, I guess the same gentleman. What's happening there is very sad to watch. And hopefully other countries like the UK, where you have your own problems, but it's not as visible as that.

You know, you don't have thousands of people just bum rushing your country. I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, but we had that. Uh, we had, uh, something we -- I came up with the name caravan. You've seen the caravans. They came in from all parts of the world, actually. They come in, they form a caravan, 25,000, 30,000 people.

And they'd start marching up through Mexico. They'd pass Colombia. They'd come up through Mexico, long, horrible march, very dangerous, very -- I mean, many people died the women were being raped, constantly raped remember when I mentioned that when I first ran for office, everybody said, oh, what a terrible thing.

It turned out, what I said was nothing by comparison how vicious it is. And they came up and they poured into the country, our country. But somehow what's happened in Spain, I've never seen -- it almost looks worse than anything I've seen before.

Well, the Spanish people think so, certainly.

Oh, I think it's terrible.

It's --

And it will destroy Spain and it'll destroy Europe because once they're in Spain, they're going to not stop at Spain. They're going to pour into your country and every other country. But they already are pouring into your country.

I do want --

I mean, if you go through London, London's a much different place. You have a terrible mayor. He doesn't -- no, he's a nasty guy, nasty person. He's a very bad mayor. You have crime that's very high. And London's a very much different place than -- if you took somebody from 15 or 20 years ago and brought them through London, they wouldn't know what happened, such a different place.

The hospitalizations from stabbing in London have gone down in the last five years. It doesn't appear like that, but they would -- they claim that they're winning that particular war on crime in the UK.

There shouldn't be a war on crime. You shouldn't have crime. You didn't have crime in London. London was a very safe place and now you have -- a different culture has ended, you know, entered London. Same thing with Paris. I mean, it's a different culture, different people.

Can I ask you about --

It's actually not recognizable, frankly.

There are certainly areas of London which you could describe as a monoculture. They're not a diverse culture. There is a monoculture.

Well, you have areas in Paris, in London, where the police don't want to even go in them. There's no law and order. They're afraid to go in them. Either they're afraid or they just don't, you know, they don't want to lose their life. But they run their own and then you have Sharia courts and you have lots of other things taking place.

And you have a mayor who's absolutely terrible. I mean, he's absolutely a terrible representative for the UK. This is not somebody that should be representing London and the UK, but he stays there because I guess he has enough votes in the people that are coming in that nobody's going to vote him out. You know, democracy.

He's been voted in three times. I mean, he's a popular man.

Well, I wish your new -- I wish your new leader a lot of luck. I mean, you have the energy thing, but boy, the energy is so easy to solve. But the -- because of the North Sea. And then you have probably a more difficult problem, and that's the immigration and the millions of people that have come into your country.

Andy Burnham said he's going to take a pragmatic approach to energy in the UK. He's announced he's going to go to COP. He believes that the planet needs to be saved and that we have to be working harder to get rid of fossil fuels. You're very much an outlier on the planet, really as a as a leader of a major country and economy that doesn't -- isn't troubled by that same pressure to save the planet.

Why is that?

Well, I think it's been proven false. You know, it's been proven false. We had President Obama and he talked about the carbon footprint and all, and then he'd hopped into a 747 Air Force One and it fly to Hawaii to play a round of golf and fly back. It's -- no, it's all a big hoax. Fossil fuel is the most powerful and it's the least expensive.

And you can totally watch the environment. It's very safe I mean, they have windmills all over England. They have windmills all over Scotland. You fly over Scotland, it's so [Inaudible] the most beautiful place in the world and you fly, they have thousands of windmills. I fly in a helicopter over to Turnberry, let's say, because we have Turnberry, we have Aberdeen, and we have one where you're going to have the -- In Ireland, as you know, it's so great.

They're going to have the Irish Open there in a couple of weeks at my course, Doonbeg.

Yeah.

But actually it's interesting, in Ireland, you don't see that many windmills. But when you fly over Scotland and you fly over the -- you know, if you land in Heathrow, they have windmills all over the place.

You see, we are --

And it's so bad environmentally. You know, the environmentalists say, oh, it's wonderful. It's a big hoax.

I think the problem is that we don't have a choice. We're signed up to climate treaties with the UN, with other global organizations that we've committed with all of these other countries.

The Paris Accord.

You took America out of it not once, but twice.

I terminated it. I terminated it twice. No, it's a -- it's a big hoax. You people can't afford to pay. And it's -- it's weak energy, it's bad -- the most expensive energy there is, is windmills. First of all, they cost a fortune. They're all made in China. They kill all your birds. they ruin your sightlines.

They ruin the fields. Look at these fields. You see these beautiful fields in Scotland where the most beautiful fields in the world, they've been destroyed with having these steel towers and they're rusting and rotting. I mean, after four or five years, they begin to rust.

Yeah. Is it -- do you think part of the problem for you is that a lot of this manufacturing is done in China? Because China has got the market sewn up with the raw materials that we need for solar panels and for wind turbines. Is that --

Well, I don't blame China. Look, China makes windmills, but they don't use them. You know, if you go around China, you don't see too many. You know what they use, coal and fossil fuel. They use oil, natural gas, but they make the windmills and other than having some sites where they can show that, you know, they have a couple of -- they don't -- there's very few wind farms, big major wind farms in China.

Yeah, I think there are some smaller ones. I think they're trying on, I think, to transition. That's what China will tell us.

No, no, China's too smart. They don't want to use -- they don't want to use windmills. They'll sell them to UK instead. No, you got to straighten it out. Look, your country's in trouble. You're on the edge of disaster. You're -- I call it a tipping point. You more than most countries, you have a tremendous immigration problem and you have a tremendous energy problem.

So -- well, I've really gotten it reduced a lot. We have so much oil and gas, you have no -- and gas is very clean, clean, natural gas, even coal, by the way. You know, clean, beautiful coal. You know, I say, but they have all sorts of methods to clean coal now and a lot of things. China builds mostly -- you know, they're building right now 58 massive coal plants and you're putting up a windmill someplace.

It's terrible.

On oil, 65 billion barrels of oil I think you have access to now.

For nothing.

For nothing. You were criticized when Maduro was arrested. Your critics couldn't wait to say this was President Trump flexing his muscles. It was an international crime. Do you feel vindicated somewhat now? And was that always the end game?

Well, look, you know, Venezuela has -- outside of the United States, it probably has the second most oil in the world, right? And it's -- I mean, you know how you find oil in Venezuela, look at the ground. You just look. You said, there's oil right there. It's popping up. It's -- you don't have to explore for it, it's just -- it's massive amounts of oil and other things, by the way.

But the country was very unhappy, now it's happy. You know, we're spending a tremendous amount. ExxonMobil is in there and Chevron is in there building billions and billions of dollars' worth of brand new equipment to extract the oil and the people are working again. You know, Venezuela had oil, but they weren't using it because the system was bad.

And we have a very good relationship with the government. You know, we had an attack and we had a war, and it lasted for a very short period of time, like less than a day. But we had a war. Now we have a war with Iran, and that one's for a different reason, because we're not going to let them have a nuclear weapon.

How clear are you about the nuclear materials that might still exist in Iran? Is it possible to tell how depleted they've been?

Yeah. Well, they had three sites and now they may have Pickax Mountain, but the three sites have been obliterated. But we have a thing called Space Force, which is very effective, that I started in my first term, very effective. And we have cameras on every major area of the first three. And we also have cameras on Pickax Mountain.

And we know everybody that walks in and walks out. We can read the name -- I can see your name, Bev. Bev, if you're ever at Pickax Mountain, I can see your name.

Hopefully not.

I'll be very shocked to see Bev is at -- here she is doing an interview with somebody at Pickax.

Well, maybe. Who knows?

But we can -- you can literally from space read their name tag. Can you believe it?

Wow.

So we know everything that's going on. So we're very certain.

In terms of Iran, though, it's been a tough sell to the American people. Because effectively, what you've had to do and you're still having to do is to tell the American people that you're saving them from a threat that they didn't know existed. When they woke up at 3:00 in the morning, they weren't worried about the Ayatollah with a nuclear bomb.

I'm saving your country from the threat, too, because if Iran had a nuclear weapon --

Yea, true.

-- they're more likely to use it in Europe, where they do have missile capability than they are to America, where they don't. And I'm saving your country from a problem, because they would use it. So they were two weeks, maybe four weeks away from having a nuclear weapon, and we attacked them with the bombers.

I also did something else in my first term. I ended the Obama, the JCPOA. That's the agreement, the Obama nuclear disaster, where it was basically a short road to a nuclear weapon. And they would have had a nuclear weapon five years ago if I didn't terminate that. I terminated the deal. But then, very importantly, a year and a couple of months ago, we attacked them at those three big sites where they had lots of nuclear dust, I call it. It's material that will could easily be turned into a nuclear weapon.

It went through the whole process. And it's now buried under millions of tons of mountain and will be very hard to get to.

The Middle East, though, is a perpetual pain in your backside, isn't it really, since you got into office? You -- I think because being the president of peace is important to you, that you must just wish that they could all sort this out in some way. And --

Well, it's been a problem for 2,000 years, you know that.

Exactly.

They've been -- they've been fighting for -- look, I'm there because we have to --

So is it hopeless?

-- we have to stop them from having a nuclear weapon and it is the Middle East, and we've done that. Look, we've defeated the Navy, we've defeated their air force, we've defeated them. Their leaders are gone. Their everything is gone just about. You know, we just hit them again last night and we took out their radar.

They just put new radar in. We control the Hormuz Strait. We have great control over the Hormuz Strait we're taking out 30, 40 boats a night, and a lot of oil is coming out of there. So we control the Hormuz Strait and their economy is crashing. Their inflation could be 300 percent. Their money is valueless, their equivalent of the dollar, but their money is valueless.

If you look at what's happened to their -- the dollar is strong and their money is literally of no value. It's $2 million to $1, or something like that, and it's going up every day. So they're in -- they're in big trouble. There's a communications problem, though, isn't there, in terms of going into the midterms and making sure that the American voters understand the objective.

We have to explain to the American people. You know, it's interesting when people say, are you glad you did it? I said, absolutely, because I stopped them from having a nuclear weapon. Because if I didn't do that, your people would call up and address them as, sir. Sir, is there anything I can do for you, sir?

No, they won't have a nuclear weapon. No, I did the right thing. And I think the American people, you know, they were very much against my going into Venezuela, then I went in and won and now everybody's saying what a great deal it was. You know, I paid for the war many times over. We've taken out millions of barrels of oil in Venezuela.

We've paid for the war many, many times. You don't hear that too much. You know, to the victor belong the spoils, right? You don't hear that very much. But with Iran, as soon as we win, which will not be long. We've already won because they can't have a nuclear weapon. But if we left Iran today, it would take them 25 years to rebuild it. But we're not going to do that.

If you did leave Iran today, I know you've been concerned and I've seen Karoline Levitt, when she was standing behind the podium, multiple occasions expressed concern for the Iranian people and how they can live post the supreme leaders.

Yeah.

And I think you've mentioned this afternoon about the fact that it is up to them to start to rise up at some point, isn't it? But how do they do that?

Well, they're having a hard time rising because they've killed 75,000 protesters. It was 52,000 a few months ago. So they've killed 75,000 protesters. So, I mean, I understand that. I understand how they don't rise. You know, they tried to rise but when -- when you have somebody with a machine gun or snipers all over the place shooting the people, it's very hard to rise up, so I understand that.

Talking of wars, which are irritating for you on your very long to do list, Russia, Ukraine remains intractable at the moment. Andy Burnham came out, first international visit was to Ukraine and has come out and said that he supports Ukraine 100 percent. Is that problematic for you when you're trying to do a deal behind the scenes?

No. Look --

Does it put us at risk as a British --

I just want the war ended. It's very simple. They're losing 25,000 people every month, Russia and Ukraine both, both losing a lot. And Russia's offensive so they lose a little bit more. When you're offensive, you lose more in war. But they're losing 25,000 between the two of them on average. Last month it was 32,000 people and they're mostly soldiers.

You know, there's some in the, you know, cities in Kyiv as a missile hits a building, very unpleasant. But they're losing 25,000 to 30,000 soldiers a month. I just want to see that end. I think we'll get it. You know, I ended eight wars, eight different wars. Of the eight, four of them were supposed to be much more difficult than this one.

I thought this would be the easiest one.

Why is it so difficult?

Because they hate each other.

You just can't get them in a room? You feel --

President Putin and President Zelenskyy hate each other and they have a hard time with it.

Are you --

But it's going to end.

Are you going to get Putin -- are you going to invite him to the G-20 in Miami?

I haven't thought of it, but I will tell you, the level of animosity between those two leaders is causing that war not to end. And if the election weren't rigged, the 2020 election weren't rigged, it would have never -- you would have -- in the United States. That war would have never taken place.

But you wouldn't have been president in the 250th year and that's been quite a good thing.

No, it's been -- no, actually, I mean, the one negative is that war, the war, but we've done things now that I don't think I could have ever been able to do if it had gone the more traditional way.

Such as?

Well, there are many things. When you look at our economy and when you look at all of the money that we're taking in, when you look at the people that we have, we have great people. Just, you know, we're the hottest country in the world right now. The king of Saudi Arabia said just a short while ago, he said two -- He said a year ago, meaning now, two years ago, because I met him a while ago, but he said, two years ago your country was dead and now you have the hottest country anywhere in the world.

We're worried at the moment in the UK about the Falklands, and your friend Javier Miller has said that he's going to make a statement, I think, tomorrow night about the Falkland Islands. The US has always been neutral on this issue, but would you come to the aid of the UK if --

Are you saying they want to claim the Falklands?

Yeah.

Well, look, I was there when they had the first war. That was a long time ago, and I watched it so carefully. And you comported yourselves very well. You took it back pretty strongly. But it's a long way away. That's a big trip. It's a long way. So your country's not doing well. Don't forget, you got a big percentage of your oil from the Strait of Hormuz, and you weren't there to help me. Your country was not there to help me. I didn't -- we didn't need help but I did ask NATO, and I asked your former leader for -- why didn't you send a couple of ships?

He said, we don't have any. And it was pretty sad, the whole thing. So NATO was not there, even though they get -- most of those countries get a big portion of their oil from -- so we're doing that by ourselves.

Yeah, you were hurt by that.

So NATO was very -- well, I wasn't hurt. I call it an education process, right? But the Falklands is very interesting because your country is not the same country it was --

Under Margaret Thatcher.

-- 20 years ago, 25 years ago. I know it was a long time ago. And you went there and you just took it back very quickly. There was no games. So I don't know if you're prepared to do that. I don't know if you're --

Whether we have the capacity.

I just don't know if you have the capacity to do it. It's a big difference.

Well, let's hope so.

How big a push is that, because I am hearing -- how big a push is that?

We don't know yet. Hopefully not at all, and we don't know what the --

They're beautiful sheep.

We don't know -- we don't know what the statement is going to be from [Inaudible] tomorrow night. The other suggestion might be that because we've been potentially somewhat -- some would say weak on Chagos in surrendering the Chagos Islands back --

Well, that was terrible.

-- to Mauritius, not back to Mauritius, to [Inaudible]

Well, that was terrible. They gave it over to people that shouldn't really have it, in my opinion. That was terrible.

Yeah. Well, that that may be coming back on your desk again now, we believe under the new Prime Minister. We haven't had confirmation.

Well, they shouldn't have done that and they couldn't even use it. It was like they were giving it to people that nobody even knows if they have any right to it. That was your previous government. I think your new Prime Minister will have to look at that. But that was very bad. We were flying planes much further than necessary because your country wasn't able to give it to us. It was terrible.

Look, your country has changed a lot. I hope you know that.

A lot of our viewers are concerned about our country changing.

Yeah, they should be.

There's no doubt.

They should be.

And your -- your national security strategy is such a great document. It's such a great report. It puts clearly what it is that America wants in terms of security and the geopolitics, um, around the world. And one of the other things that I've heard people from the State Department talking about here in America is this idea of a radical left coalition, with a radical version of Islam and how problematic that could be from a terror perspective.

Well, I'm not worried about it from this country's standpoint, but I'm worried about it from Europe's standpoint. But we have that under control very much.

Why aren't we worried about it?

I don't worry about things like that. I take care of them before they become a problem.

But I wonder whether when you see Andy Burnham, if you see Andy Burnham at UNGA, maybe the United Nations General Assembly in New York in a couple of weeks --

Yeah, I will.

Will you talk to him about this? Will you --

I talk to him about other things. I mean, I'll talk to him about that, but I don't think that would be first on my mind to talk to him about. I do think that NATO has to get its act together very quickly. When you see something like Spain, you know, in a certain way, that's an invasion of a country. It's actually in many ways worse than a regular military invasion.

Your country is going to be destroyed. That country is going to be destroyed.

Yeah, there are reports about 70,000 people went in --

It's much more than that. When I look at that, you know, I'm pretty good at estimating crowds, much more than that.

But there is a kind of vision amongst some leaders around the world and some maybe influence -- influence isn't the right word, but policy makers, thinkers, unelected bureaucrats for a borderless planet where we have no individual nation states it sounds really utopian.

Sounds crazy to me, not going to work.

It's probably what you would describe, I've heard you talk about this new communism, which is a threat here, a new type of communism. Is that part of that vision?

No, but I mean, I haven't heard that, the term when you said borderless world. I've heard it over the years, but it's so preposterous. Uh, why would a country that's thriving and doing good and has people that are hardworking, wonderful people, allow other people to come in and steal their country?

I think because there's a whole generation who say -- Because they have stupid leaders, that's why. And they say the planet belongs to nobody. The planet belongs to everybody. And that's part of the push ideologically behind countries --

Ideologues.

The ideologues.

They're fools, OK? They're fools. I think you know that. I know you very well. You know that but it's a good question but they're total fools.

Now we're in the middle of the fourth Industrial Revolution. We had steam and we've had electricity and we had computers. And this revolution, sir, is about AI.

Yeah.

The boom in AI. This country is leading the way. The top five tech bros who are running this all live in this country. Are you concerned about the future with AI?

No.

Are we doing enough to protect jobs? What are the jobs going to be for your grandchildren?

The jobs are going to be massive. AI is going to be positive. There's some negatives, but that'll be straightened out.

Do you think?

And we're building, uh, plants, data centers, which, you know, data centers are actually fabulous. They create tremendous wealth, tremendous jobs uh, salaries of people are going through the roof. It's got a little bad press coming, you know, which it's been having for the last few months. It started a few months ago.

Some people think it was started by China because they're very important. But data centers, if you go to most communities where they have data centers, they're wealthy, they're -- the jobs are incredible, their homes are more valuable they've done, you know, it's a very important thing. And we're leading China in AI. We're leading everybody in AI. We create our own energy.

We let them create their own energy. That's a big deal.

But there are estimates that it would just take millions of jobs. Anybody that works at a laptop now, AI can do that job.

Yeah. I think it will create millions of jobs because it's going to create business and people -- you know, computers and things have to be created in some form and they're created by man. They are created, but they're created by us. It's going to always start with us. But I think it actually will -- and so far I'm right because it's creating millions and millions of jobs.

And these are construction jobs. But AI is going to be positive. I think medically, it's going to come up with a cure to diseases that we would have never been -- we would have maybe never come up with. I'm hearing things medically that are being, uh, that are happening now, that with AI, you might be talking 100 years from now.

Yeah.

We're discovering cures to problems and diseases that they might not be even -- it might not -- it might not have happened in 100 years from now. Um, efficiency, uh, it will help militaries. I mean, I don't know if that's good or bad, but certainly in terms of fighting wars, you won't be making stupid mistakes like they've made in so many different wars.

You look at wars, I look at some of the wars that were fought and lost through pure stupidity. I mean, I'm looking again, we go back to Russia, Ukraine. Uh, it can only help. It can't get any worse than what's happening there with all the people dying.

Some people say the worst case scenario with AI is that the robots, the machinery, learns to -- obviously, it thinks for itself that's what it does and they -- that could turn against humanity. I just -- do we have the guardrails?

It's going to be fine. We'll always have something to stop them, right? We'll have a little gear. I really -- I don't like that -- I really don't like that robot, we'll stop. But no, robots are going to be a part of it. Robots are going to be big, but we're going to end up doing much better because of it. It's technology.

No different than when television was -- They said the movies would be out of business, and the radio came and something else was going to be gone and it's always -- everything is --people should think more positively but AI right now in this country is creating tremendous numbers of jobs.

Yeah. Because those industrial revolutions, like, say, where there's always been this technological development, but the previous times they seemed to increase wealth for everybody and this time, the impression, whether it's accurate or not, it seems to be, is that it's pushing the money upwards to just a few people and taking it away from --

We just came out with numbers that the biggest beneficiaries of what I've done, you know, I give big tax cuts, no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security for our seniors, no tax on overtime, and the biggest beneficiaries are the middle class for taxes, relatively speaking, are the middle class. Also, most of these companies are public companies that are doing very well with AI. They have stockholders.

They have 401-Ks. I don't know if you know about 401-Ks, but here it's -- the people own pieces of these companies, and their 401-Ks are through the roof so the people that are benefiting, I'll tell you more than anybody else, are the middle class in the United States.

That's why so many British people want to come and live in America, frankly. Our taxes are enormous.

Well, they should. They should. Well, I looked at numbers the other day, and if you look at Europe and you look at the United States in terms of companies, they have, in the top 500 companies, we have almost all of them. And they have like one.

The UK.

They have very little. I was very surprised. And the one is not very big.

I think we're doing quite well for kind of investment into the UK at the moment, but for existing companies --

No, investment in the US.

Oh, sorry. You're doing great with investment in the US. UK has invested fortunately in the United States by buying stocks. Can you invest back in us, please?

On the stock market, right? But no, but it's true, though, a lot of countries, the biggest thing they've done is they've invested heavily in the United States. So we have over $20 trillion. It was $19.2, I was saying it for -- and now it's over $20 trillion. Uh, no country has ever had that much come in. But, uh, many countries, including your country, are investing in the US and their money has doubled and tripled.

The generation who aren't doing very well, we have the same problem, the US and the UK. We have between 10 to 15 percent of 16 to 24 year olds who are not in education, employment or training. They're called NEETs in the UK.

Are you talking about -- yeah.

That lockdown generation had --

It's terrible.

Terrible, terrible. How do we get those kids out of their parents houses, out of those bedrooms, motivate them, give them purpose and they go, the jobs are all going to go to AI?

You used to have a UK dream. You don't have that so much anymore, right?

That's right.

They used to go out. My mother was born in Scotland and she led a great life. She came to America, she worked she fell in love with a wonderful guy, my father, they were married for many, many years. And, uh, there was -- and, by the way, every year she'd go back to Scotland. The Hebrides or Stornoway. She would go back with my sisters, her daughters every year.

She loved Scotland. She loved the Queen. She loved the whole monarchy thing. She was --

And if you, at 17, had been sat in your bedroom with no ambition and no education, what would your mother have done?

Well, she would have forced you to go out and get a job.

I'm sure she would.

You have to go out and work.

Yeah.

It's a tough situation, though. Other countries have a bigger problem. I mean, they have millions of young kids and seemingly no future. I mean, there are poor countries and seemingly no future. It's very tough.

It is tough. A big part of that is technology, of course. These children are on their phones. They're addicted to tech. We've had this significant legal case here in America, $18 billion fine to Meta for -- not a fine. They've made a donation to states --

Well, it was a -- it was a settlement of a lawsuit.

Yeah, exactly, a kind of penalty that -- yeah, and they've paid this to the American states to provide support programs, perhaps for children, because they've had to confess, admit that maybe their algorithms and the addictive nature was damaging to children. Is that the right solution or is it the parent's responsibility --

I think it's the parents, but I also think that the companies can do something to make it a little bit more difficult. But still, it does get down to the parents. I mean, that's basically the defense. Your parents have to be watching over the children, but the companies can do a lot and that's why they made that settlement.

You've mentioned Meghan and Harry this afternoon.

Yeah.

King Charles obviously has them now back in the UK. What would you do in that situation if you were King Charles and should he welcome them back to the royal family?

Well, first of all, I think King Charles is fantastic. He's a friend of mine. Personally, I would not have taken them back, too much hate, too many really bad things said. He wrote a book that was so bad and she was a horrible influence on him. What she's done to him is unacceptable.

Even though he's -- King Charles, obviously he's unwell now. Maybe he's thinking this is the time to --

We're talking about Charles?

Yeah.

Oh, no. Well, but I'm just saying Megan and her husband, uh, I would not have taken him back in. I mean, if I were King Charles, uh, I would not -- there's too much -- you know, he just left. He was here a couple of months ago. Everybody loved him in America. He spoke in front of Congress. Everybody loved him.

He's a fantastic guy and he's been a friend of mine for a long time. I knew him as Prince Charles, I knew him as King Charles and, uh, he's amazing and he's fighting through a very tough situation with his health. And very few people would have that bravery to do what he's done but I think that what she has done and -- and him, you know, he wrote a book that was very terrible to William.

It was terrible, the things he said. I would -- I mean, it's just me I'm sure I'm wrong on this, but I would not have taken him back. I would have never spoken to him again.

We don't know if there is a relationship between them at the moment. There's definitely no relationship between Harry and William at the moment, but Charles obviously has extended an olive branch. They're not living on --

It shows you what a good man Charles is.

It does. He must have had to dig deep to give.

He's a much better person than I am. I wouldn't have done it. I would have said, forget it.

But you see, your children probably wouldn't have done what Harry did to his father. The relationship is different.

I hope not. I hope not.

You must be sad to see Karoline Leavitt go from the podium. Who's in line for that job --

A lot of people want it, I can tell you. She was great. She did a great job and she'll be involved indirectly but she, you know, had two children and she wants to -- she's proven she loves her children more than she loves me and that's OK. That's the way it's supposed to be. But she was fantastic. I couldn't have asked for better.

I mean, I'd love to be able to get somebody just like her.

Yeah.

I don't know if that's going to be possible.

Very big shoes to fill.

But we'll find somebody. We have many, many people that want it and very good people and we'll pick the right one.

Yeah. OK. Thank you so much.

Thank you very much. Thank you, Bev.

Thank you.