All right, Mr. President, um, thank you so much for doing this. It is an honor to be here with you. You've had another very busy week, less than three weeks from the midterms, 19 days now. Since the start of October, you've traveled to more than a dozen states. Uh, the turnout has been like 2024 all over again: Ohio, Tennessee, Kentucky, Nebraska, Nevada, New York, Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona, Alaska, Montana, but a lot of very red states.
How concerned are you that without your name on the ballot, Republicans might be in trouble on November 3rd?
Well, I just look at statistics. So, uh, 49% fewer people show up if I'm not on the ticket. And what I'm trying to do is be on the ticket, essentially. I mean, I'm running like I'm on the ticket because nobody's done more than I have, we have as, as, you know, on this administration. Uh, when you look at our numbers, when you look at $21 trillion, even now it's 22, it's over $22 trillion being invested, that's more than any country ever in history by four or five times.
It's not a question like a little bit more. Factories being built all over the country, uh, the strongest border we've ever had, uh, the biggest tax cuts we've ever had that, you know, we've just done tremendous amount. Uh, but all of that can be overturned with stupid people coming into office or --
Right.
-- or bad people or communist people or jihadists like we have in Michigan. Uh, so I think it's very -- I think I owe it to myself to do this and --
Do you plan to go to Michigan?
Yeah, I'm going twice, actually. Yeah.
OK. What about Maine?
Um, you know, I won Maine, too, you know, that --
Mm-hmm.
-- by a lot. I won the lumberjacks, the fishermen. I won it by a lot. Uh, there's no real reason for me to go to Maine, I don't think, although they have a couple of interesting races going on, but I think we're gonna win those races. Uh, but probably not. I'd like to go to Maine. I love Maine. Uh, but I'm so solid with Maine, too, it's, you know, can't get much more solid.
The polls were wrong in 2016.
Yep.
And some of them were off by 17 points --
Yeah.
-- in 2016.
Sure.
They were wrong in 2020. They were wrong in 2022.
Well, they purposely, the polls --
In 2024, there were more than 10 polls that had Kamala winning. Do you trust the polls right now?
No, they --
Because all over the country, it's blue wave.
Yeah, no, they're rigged. They're rigged polls. Uh, so what I'm doing, and you see it 'cause you're a great journalist. You really are. Not, not because you're good to me, be- -- you've been calling it right for a long time.
Thank you, sir.
So has Rob and so has Greg. So have a couple of others [Laughs] in all fairness. But, uh, no, they're rigged polls. And they do them both ways. In some cases, they have me leading by so much that people aren't gonna vote. And in some cases, they have me losing. In one case, they had me losing by 17 points.
ABC, fake news.
Right.
ABC is probably the worst of the networks, and they had me losing by 17 points. So people would say -- I actually said to John McLaughlin, the pollster, who thought I was gonna win, I said, "Let me ask you, when they do a poll," I think it was ABC/Washington Post, two real fakers, I said, "What's the purpose of saying I'm gonna lose by so much?
Because they lose credibility. He said, "Well, if they said you're gonna lose by three or four points, people will vote. If they say you're gonna lose by 17, nobody goes out to vote." They're saying --
So they are doing it to discourage people from voting deliberately.
They're doing it to discourage. But I said to him, "Yeah, but they lose credibility because when people see it, then in two years or four years when you have another election, they lose by 17, they lose --" He said, "They couldn't care less."
Yeah, and no one ever looks back.
No, they don't --
No one ever does an audit.
They couldn't, they couldn't care less. No, they had me losing by 17 points, and I won by a lot.
Right.
I won in a landslide. Don't forget, I won all seven swing states. They said I was gonna win two, and I won them by a lot. They knew it was fake. I knew it was fake. You know, when I go out and I get a, a crowd of 55,000 people and Kamala goes out and gets 800 people if she's lucky, and then they say, "Oh, Kamala's gonna do wonderful." I felt I was gonna win, but I also have honest, uh, pollsters like McLaughlin and some others that were saying, "You're gonna win by a lot." But they do it both ways.
In some cases, they had me way up because when you're way up, you tend not to vote, too, because you think --
Right.
-- "Oh, gee, my p- -- my president's gonna win." And when you're way down, the same thing.
We saw what happened with Spencer Pratt out in Los Angeles.
Oh, that was terrible what happened to him.
Um, it took 27 days to count the vote in California. How concerned are you that we could go through this as a country all over again, but this time the balance of power in the House and the Senate are on the line?
Well, there are some states that are particularly dishonest. California is one of them. And that's why I think Steve Hilton is a fantastic guy, and he's w- -- working very, very hard. But in the end, they're not gonna let you win it. They just won't let you win it because it's a rigged state. They send out millions and millions of ballots.
Uh, Democrats get, in some cases, seven, in some cases, one, but in some cases they get much more than one. Republicans oftentimes don't get any. They have to call in for their ballot. Uh, and then, uh, they, they just rig it. Uh, look at, uh, any, anytime you have this ranked-choice voting, it's a disaster where people go in number one, they come out number two, three.
Nobody knows what happens. Nobody actually even knows what's going on. They --
It's confusing.
They, oh, well, it's not even confusing. It's a rigged deal.
Yeah.
A rigged -- it should be called rigged-choice voting. But California is really bad. Minnesota is really bad. Look, I won Minnesota three times, but they didn't give me the victory. I do great in Minnesota. Uh, I call it Iron Country, best stuff in the world.
And Michele Tafoya is doing very well --
She's doing well.
-- in the polls there against Peggy Flanagan.
The problem is she's doing great, and I think she's terrific. The problem is, they count very -- they're a very dishonest state. Who would have thought that Minnesota would have been this way? But Minnesota hasn't been won since 1972. I won it three times. That's my strong opinion. I thought there was no way I could win -- lose it. I would go out.
I would have the enthusiasm. You know w- --
You think you won Minnesota three times?
I think I won it three times.
OK.
Uh, when I lost Minnesota, people in Minnesota cried. They were crying.
Mm.
They said it's not possible. Uh, but, so when you say Michele, I think she's fantastic. She's doing a good job and everything, but it's very hard to win a state that's rigged, and they're rigged.
Will you go there to campaign?
I'm gonna, I think I'm gonna go. I just left, literally just before this interview. I told my people, "Set up one or two." You know, I drove fantastically in Minnesota and I did great. I, I lost by a whisker, but it's a rigged state.
Let me ask you about --
We have numerous rigged states, by the way, and, you know, that's one of them.
I wanna ask you about Ilhan Omar, uh, while we're talking about, um --
Yeah, it's a bad, sick person.
-- Minnesota. There's a chance that she will be indicted, and if that happens, she could face jail time or deportation. If it comes to that, would you do anything to stop it?
Well, I think she's a crooked person, but I'm not involved. It's a DOJ. Look, we have a great attorney general, Todd Blanche. It's gonna be up to them. I'm not involved in that. I read, I see it on your show. I see it on the news. I read about it. Uh, I think she's a very corrupt person. I think she hates our country.
Uh, she is a person that truly, uh, hates our country. She comes from, uh, one of the worst countries in the world. Absolutely. They have no government. They have no military. They have no police. They have nothing.
Then you would let her be deported, if that were --
Well, the amazing thing, she comes from a country that's nothing. No leaders, no this. All they do is shoot each other all day long and rob ships, you know the p- --
Somalia.
They're only good at being a pirate, right? Other than that, they're not --
It's a government we don't recognize formally.
It's a, it's no government. It's no country. It's not even a thing.
Right.
She comes over here, uh, drives around in fancy cars, lives in beautiful houses, everything else. But she comes over here, and she start talking about, "My Constitution. I have constitutional rights." She's throwing the Constitution out and telling us how to run America. Uh, personally, I've said it many times before.
She ought to go back to her own country and get a little, uh, help them out. She couldn't help anybody anyway. She's just a troublemaker. But I'm not involved in it. I think she's very bad for our country.
Democrats have been very vocal about saying they want to impeach you for a third time. They don't know what they're gonna impeach you for.
They have no idea.
But let's just say November 4th: we wake up, and they control the House and the Senate. What does that mean for the remaining two years of your presidency?
Well, the only thing they could impeach me for, it's only one thing, and that's making our country strong, making our country rich. If you look back, 10 years ago, China did $3 trillion. We're gonna do $22 trillion in just 15 months. Many, many times what China did, uh, compared to Biden, in four years, he did a half a trillion.
We're gonna do, in 15 months, $22 trillion. Many, many times. The only thing they can impeach me for is making our country really strong. The growth of this country, and you'll see that, and it's already happening.
Yeah.
It's already happening. The growth of our country is, is greater than it's ever been before.
And if they do, let's say they win the House or the Senate or both, and they go crazy for the next two years, that could end up helping Republicans in 2028 in a very big way. Um, I wanna --
Well, you know, it's, by the way, it is interesting. You know, they impeached me twice. I won very easily both times. And there are those that say it helped me as opposed to hurt me, uh, and I become good at anti-impeachment. I call it the anti-impeachment movement.
[Laughs] Right.
But for them to do that is, uh, it cheapens our country so much. It's really very terrible. And, you know, and honestly, I could have done numbers on Hillary Clinton. I could have done numbers on Bill Clinton. I do like Bill Clinton. Uh, I could have done numbers on Barack Hussein Obama. Still could. I still could.
Mm-hmm.
I could do big numbers if I wanted to. Uh, I've turned down going after Hillary Clinton.
What do you mean, big numbers? Y- -- y- --
I'm talking about go after them criminally or I could have done something having to do with their reputations, destroyed their reputations.
Mm-hmm.
We have a lot of information about Hillary. We have a lot of information about Barack Hussein Obama. We have a lot of information on Sleepy Joe Biden.
Are you going to do anything?
Well, I mean, I guess not. Probably not. But I think if they impeach me, uh, again, you know, again, and --
Oh, that's interesting. Things could get ugly.
Well, let me explain something to you. They had a congressman the other day on television, a Democrat. I won't mention his name; he's not a bad person. But they asked whether or not you're gonna impeach Trump. He said, "Well, the party wants to." And they said, "Well, what would they impeach him on?" And he said, "Well," he thought, he said, "I don't really know, but I'm sure the party will find something."
That's never happened before, by the way, sir.
There's never been anything like it.
Th- -- nobody's ever talked about impeaching somebody for something they'll figure out down the road if they do take power.
They have no idea. He actually said, "We don't know, but the party will certainly figure out something."
Um, I wanna ask you about Iran. Um, you've done something, and, and I wish the rest of the media would talk about this, but it is a fact that generations from now, people will reflect on, on this and say this. But you did something no other president was willing to do, and you've probably saved millions of lives.
OK, that's my opinion. Unfortunately, the rest of the media never mentioned that. Now there are reports today that you're considering using the mother of all bombs maybe after the midterms, and I just wanna know what that means.
Well, the mother of all bombs is not nuclear.
OK. Not tactical nuclear?
No, no, it's not nuclear at all. This is just a extremely large bomb. It's like a tiny nuclear bomb. And, uh, but the mother of all bombs is one big bomb, but it's not nuclear. No, I wouldn't use nuclear. We don't have to. We're the greatest nuclear power in the world. We have more in nuclear than Russia.
Russia's second. China's third. And China's way behind, but they'll catch us in, within five years, which is, you know, the whole thing is a shame because I'd love to denuclearize if possible.
Yeah.
But, uh, and we're, we're actually talking to Russia about that and we're talking to China about that -- denuclearization.
You're having conversations --
Yep, I am.
-- with Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin about --
I am.
-- denuclearization?
I am. I am.
We haven't seen that since, since the '80s.
Well, it's a hard, it's a hard thing to do.
Ronald Reagan.
China's probably less inclined because they're substantially behind us in terms of that.
Mm-hmm.
We're number one. Russia's number two. And China will catch us in five years or six years. So they're less inclined. But yeah, we, we talk, we talk about it a lot.
Let me ask you about nuclear. Um, you've stated many times that the Iran nuclear program has been totally decimated.
Yeah.
Um, if that's the case, why don't we pull up anchor now, declare victory and get out of there?
Well, we could, but if we do that, within a year, we may have to do it again. I wanna do it so that --
But that's okay. Do what you did when you took out the nuclear sites.
Uh, it is, but you know what I would be more concerned? Uh, if I'm not president and we have some weak, ineffective person like we've had for many years as president, uh, they will allow that to go on. We wanna make it so that they will never have a nuclear weapon because if they had it, they would use it, in my opinion, instantaneously.
No, we've knocked them out. We've knocked out their sites; their, their nuclear's buried under millions of tons of mountain. Uh, now we're looking at Pickaxe Mountain. We may have to go there. We'll take a shot at that one. We'll knock it out fast.
But not troops on the ground?
No, I, I don't see that. I don't see that.
OK. Um, the Ukraine war, sir, is, this is a war you could call a forever war. It's almost in calendar year --
It's terrible.
-- we're almost at six years of this war. Uh --
Terrible. It's supposed to be one day.
Millions have died --
Yep.
-- uh, by the way. Uh, and Ukraine, this report today, they have resumed strikes on Russian oil refineries. Diesel, uh, is extremely high all over the world. I thought you asked President Zelenskyy not to do that anymore.
I did. I did. And Zelenskyy's a, uh, not a good guy for us to deal with. Biden gave him hundreds of billions of dollars, uh, billions and billions of dollars worth of equipment.
Have you lost faith in him?
Well, I think they're gonna, if they're gonna end up with a settlement of some kind, they're not gonna do it with him. He doesn't wanna settle. Uh, he says he wants to settle, but he doesn't. No, I'm not a, I'm not a big fan of Zelenskyy. They've destroyed that country. That country, look, it really began with Barack Hussein Obama when they made them give up Crimea.
Mm.
Crimea's the most valuable part by far of Ukraine.
Yeah.
You know what I'm talking. It's --
The Black Sea.
-- four sides of ocean.
Right.
Most beautiful piece of land. I'm a real estate developer; I know --
Sure.
-- I know good land.
Yeah.
They gave up Crimea. But, uh, where it happened in a little bit more modern time is when, uh, Zelenskyy went to see Putin and they had a very bad meeting. And as you know, Putin hates Zelenskyy and Zelenskyy hates Putin. And when you have that kind of hatred, it's very hard to get something settled. But that's a war that should have never started --
Does that end before the --
If the election weren't rigged, if the U.S. election would've ri- -- weren't rigged, that would've never happened. That war would've never happened. That's the saddest part. But then it was supposed to be a very much quick, you know, very quick war.
Right.
And if you remember, the tanks going up the highway right into Kyiv, had the general, who was obviously not a very good general, not made a right turn into farmland, which was soaked and soaking wet from the heaviest rain in 10 years, they say --
Mm-hmm.
-- he went right up into the mud and it was like quicksand. And those tanks, so, they got, I guess, I don't know if you call it lucky or not lucky, frankly, because it's been five years and Ukraine has lost a tremendous, you know, Ukraine has lost so many of its men in Russia too, but Russia's a massive country.
Russia has millions of people to lose.
Yeah, 150 million people. Does that war end before you leave office?
Uh, it should end soon. I think they actually both would like to see it end, but I think I find Zelenskyy to be more difficult to deal with than Putin.
OK. Um, Joe Biden pardoned his brother, he pardoned his sister, he pardoned his son, he pardoned half of Washington.
Pardon- -- pardoned almost everybody.
He invented the preemptive pardon.
Yeah.
So I, I just have to ask you, are you seriously considering a self-pardon before you leave office?
Well, I don't think about it because I did nothing wrong. Uh, I couldn't have given myself a pardon the last time I left office. Uh, I never thought that they'd bring me through the, uh, through the mud.
Do you regret that?
Well, I won, but I, I won the hard way.
Yeah.
Uh, I'm allowed to do a pardon, a self-pardon. I'm allowed to pardon. One thing -- the only thing Biden did is he proved that, you know, the pardon is very powerful. I know that. They say it's the most powerful thing a president has, the power of pardon.
Mm.
Uh, I can tell you this, I don't wanna see my people go through, because these people are lunatics on the, on the left. I don't wanna see people that work for me go through, uh, years of nonsense, hire lawyers and everything else, all for nothing.
-- your family. Yeah.
So, uh, I'm probably glad I didn't do it the first time, but I had to go through a lot. Uh, but I won. I don't want my people to go through. You know, at the end of two and a half years, we will have done things that nobody's ever done. There's been a great presidency. My first one was a great presidency.
We had the greatest economy in the history of our country. We did Space Force. I rebuilt the military. They wasted it. You know, they gave, they talk about ammunition. We're building up ammunition very, very rapidly, by the way. We're keeping it for ourself. We're just building it up very rapidly. We're getting Patriots at record levels.
We're getting, uh, Tomahawks at record level. We're building very quickly. But when I first came, you had Obama, our cupboards were empty because he didn't wanna buy any ammunition.
Mm-hmm.
I filled it up. But the reason that we went lower than we'd like to, and, and only with certain munitions, not with very good stuff, but we have a lot, but now we're very rapidly building it up for purposes. But I just wanna say, it wasn't what I was doing with Iran. It was what Biden did with Ukraine. He, they gave him, they gave them, I call him P.T. Barnum.
They gave to P.T. Barnum, which is Zelenskyy, massive amounts of Patriots, of Tomahawks, of everything. And they didn't make him pay. There was nobody to pay.
Yeah.
So I went to the European Union. I said, "I'm not gonna give you anything. You have to pay. They have a lot of money." They've been paying us and we send them munitions.
And that works still.
But over the last period of time, we just take the munitions for ourselves because we have to have, for ourselves, we have to have. And once we are stocked, really stocked, we will start letting our allies buy them from us. But Biden should have made them pay. He gave hundreds of bi- -- probably $350 billion worth of equipment and cash to Ukraine.
Where is the cash that we gave to Ukraine? Where are all of those, uh, where's all the equipment? You know, people were selling that equipment.
Well, and now this --
Biden was giving them missiles and they were being sold on the open market --
Right.
-- after they went to Ukraine.
And, and I asked you because the war is at, it's at a stalemate over the Donbas region, which six years later, most Americans still can't find on a map. You mentioned --
By the way, I, I do two things. Number one, had they not taken the right turn onto dirt instead of going up a concrete highway, it would've ended in one day. So I can imagine Putin's not exactly thrilled --
Mm.
-- because you're getting into six years. They're losing, on average, 25,000, now, now that number's going up to 32,000, but 25,000, mostly men, mostly military, you know, uh, small numbers relatively in towns and cities that are being hit, but they're losing a tremendous amount of people --
Mm-hmm.
-- and I wanna see it stop. And I want Zelenskyy to stop and I want Putin, now, if you tell me that Zelenskyy is again shooting at, uh, refineries, all he's doing is making the world oil price higher.
And he is doing that.
Well, I think that's a disgrace. There's plenty of other targets. They don't have to hit, there're a lot of targets --
Yeah.
-- that you can hit. But when you shoot at diesel refineries where you make, you know, diesel oil --
Right.
-- and we need that, and the world needs that, then he's not doing a good service for the world.
Mr. President, you mentioned --
And I think that frankly, Zelenskyy has been there a long time, and I think it's time for, if they, if they wanna get that settled, so I watched an interview of a young woman the other day from Ukraine, and she said, "President Zelenskyy has destroyed our country."
Mm.
President Zelenskyy has taken our men away from us. Our men have no legs, no arms. Our men are, in many cases, in mental institutions, or they're dead.
He said they need a two-month pause to hold elections to make that, to make that a possibility.
Ah.
So we'll see what happens. Let me ask you, you mentioned Space Force --
I think you need an election --
Yeah.
-- because there's nobody that's telling me that the people of Ukraine are satisfied having missiles hit- -- hitting their apartment building. But there's truth because Russia's a massive country, and Russia can lose a million men, and they have lots of other millions of men behind them. Ukraine doesn't have that kind of manpower.
Now, at the same time --
Yeah, they're a much smaller country.
-- they have the best equipment in the world given by the United States. We have the best equip- -- we make the best military equipment in the world by far now under me. And I'm the one that did it because I created, I rebuilt our military during our first term, including Space Force. We started Space Force, but I rebuilt it. Uh, they expended a lot of our ammunition, giving it to Ukraine.
Uh, we spent very little relatively did we --
Yeah.
-- use on Iran. Uh, and by the way, the Iran war will be over very soon. It's gonna end very soon. One way or the other, it's gonna end. You know, they are negotiating with us.
Yes.
But one way or the other, it'll end very soon --
You mentioned --
-- and oil will go dropping like a rock.
And gas prices, uh, as well.
And you know, just so you understand: Oil --
A lot of people are gonna vote based on gas prices.
Yeah, Rob, oil is less expensive now than it was under Biden.
Yeah.
It's less expensive now than it was under Barack Hussein Obama.
Mm-hmm.
Did you ever see his oil prices? They were way, and we did one thing that they would, didn't have the guts to do.
Yeah, many days over $100 a barrel --
Oh, they --
-- under both administrations.
And us very few.
You mentioned --
One thing, though, but the key, Iran will never have a nuclear weapon under us. Under them, they were rush- -- they were rushing to have a nuclear weapon.
A- -- ab- -- sir, you did what no other president was willing to do.
If we didn't do the B-2 bombers a year ago, they would right now have a nuclear weapon and I would be calling them, "Hello, sir. Are you every- -- is everything, I mean [Laughs] just- --"
Joe Biden, secretary of state was saying that. He was saying that. Um, you mentioned Space Force, uh, and I don't think you've gotten this questions. Uh, your administration has released by far more information about UAPs and --
Yeah.
-- UFOs than any other, but no president has ever been willing to step to the microphone and finally disclose the truth. Are aliens real? Have we been visited? Are we rever- -- reverse engineering their technology? Will you do that?
Well, let me just tell you, it's very interesting. Uh, I wasn't much of a believer. I have friends that are like, that's all they can talk about.
But you know.
And, well, I do know we see some pretty strange things. But what is more important, so I've interviewed pilots, Air Force pilots, and these are guys that look almost as good as you, OK? Not quite. Some of them may be even better, but I won't say that.
[Laughs]
I wanna keep you as my friend. But these are handsome, beautiful loo- -- these are like central casting guys.
Yeah.
These are solid people. These aren't conspiracy theorists or anything else. And I spoke to about five or six of them. I had them in because they said while flying, they saw things that they've never seen before. And I talked to them about it and they said, in one case, he saw a round object, which is not an ideal shape for going fast, that went faster by four times than an F-22, which is the fastest fighter plane in the world.
Right.
And he thought it was rather, I said, "Could it have been a comet or could it have been something else?" He said, "It wasn't, sir."
Sir, are you gonna be the president that, that does this --
Well, I, I'm looking --
-- disclosure?
I'm looking. A- -- again, I'm not high on the list of the, that particular subject.
Yeah.
There are some people -- do you know that the zone in, uh, Nevada, I think it's the number one tourist attraction, like, in the world?
Right.
Cars are parked there. And all it is is a little fence, a little rusting fence that's the craziest thing I've ever seen. So we are releasing documents. We are releasing everything and you see that. And we are releasing some pretty weird sites. But, but I did have a, a number of pilots. I'd say about five.
And these were young, strong, smart, far too young to be losing their minds, right? And they said they thi- -- they saw things that were very concerning to them. Yeah.
Unexplainable. Um, Benjamin Netanyahu is running for reelection very soon. I know that you and he have been close. Do you plan on being involved in that at all, that process as he has to?
Well, they'd like me to be. Yeah, they'd like me to be. Look, I've had a very good relationship with him. We've had good success together. Uh, we took out the number one sponsor, as they call it, state sponsor of Tehran, Iran. Iran doesn't have a navy, doesn't have a air force, doesn't have antiaircraft.
I mean, Iran is, uh, a country that's a failed country right now. Iran, other than if you read like the New York Times, they tell you how well they're doing. They're doing a great job.
Right.
No, Iran doesn't have leadership, Iran. Iran's, uh, first-tier leaders are gone, second-tier leaders are gone, some of their third-tier leaders are gone. And they've asked us to please stop, and, uh, we do because we're negotiating with them. But, uh, we had a very successful partnership, you know, in terms of a military partnership.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, the people of Israel, they say if I ran for prime minister, I get 99% of the vote.
Do you trust Netanyahu?
I don't trust anybody, honestly.
Hm.
I don't trust anybody.
Kimberly Guilfoyle --
In the world, in the world of politics, I don't trust anybody.
Kimberly Guilfoyle is no longer your ambassador to Greece. Uh, she could be in legal trouble. We'll see what happens. Would you consider a pardon for her if it came to that?
Well, I don't wanna think about it. Uh, I was disappointed in what I read. I just read some things. Uh, I haven't spoken to her. Uh, I've known her over the years. I've known her for many years. She was married to Gavin Newsom, and, uh, I've known her for years. Not that well, but I've known her. And actually, the interesting thing is she was the toast of the town over in Greece.
She did, she was doing a very good job as the, you know, ambassador to Greece. So I'm disappointed. She's a very capable person. And when I read the kind of thing she was saying on a text, it was, I read them in the papers, in the newspapers. I was surprised. I was disappointed.
Can I ask you, if James Talarico does win in the state of Texas, uh, will you have any regrets about endorsing Ken Paxton over John Cornyn?
No, because I think, uh, Cornyn would've lost. I think Cornyn would've lost. Look, the base in Texas, here's, here's the way I look at it. Ken Paxton, some people don't love him, but everybody admits he was the best attorney general in the history of Texas, one of the best in the country. I dealt with all of them.
He's one of the best attorney generals in the country. He was the best in the history of Texas. And that's the one, that's the thing we really wanna see, not the way he dresses or the way, uh, h- --
Hm.
-- he was, Ken Paxton was a great and is currently a great attorney general. And I dealt with him a lot because of the border. You know, I solved the border problem almost instantly, and he helped me. He was great. Uh, he helped me on COVID. He was the best on COVID. The guy was an unbelievable attorney general.
Uh, he's a little bit unconventional. He's a little bit, uh, this and that. But frankly, I think he should get a lot of points by being the best. I think, as I call him, Talafreako, I think he's a freak. There's something wrong with that guy. And Texas can't have that. Uh, you won't have guns.
And where was he?
He will- -- he will be against your Second Amendment.
Right.
He will be against, uh, the men -- I, I always say men cannot play in women's sports. He's totally in favor of men playing in women's sports. He's totally in favor of the transgender mutilization of your children. Uh, he's a vegan, and as a vegan, you know, my wife said, "It's not vegan."
Right.
It's vegan. I don't know what the hell it is because it's not --
Right.
-- for me.
No meat.
But, but I wanna, I wanna say that, uh, all of a sudden, he's going to barbecues, eating meat, I always say, and throwing up, you know, two minutes later at the back of the --
And where was he for 10 days? Where did he go?
12 days.
He disappeared off, yeah. Some --
Actually, 12.
Some 13. Um, one, just one quick one, sir. Uh, after four years of Joe Biden, what you've achieved at the southern border is, is nothing short of remarkable. Um, I wanna ask you about deportations. Uh, the border has been closed. The numbers are, are at a 50-year-or-more low, depending on what source you cite.
Bill Clinton deported more than 12 million. George W. Bush, more than 10 million. Barack Obama, more than five million. They called him the deporter-in-chief. Uh, no one in the media criticized that when it was happening in real time. You've deported between one and a half and two million. Will those numbers ramp up after the midterms?
Well, we are looking to take out the murderers, the drug lords, the, uh, prisoners, you know, they dropped all their prisons. And those numbers, their numbers are much different than our numbers. Our numbers is when they're in the country, we take them out. Their numbers is they would stop them at the gate, but they let millions of people come in. Do you know that in the last 17 months, it just came out again, a new month, an extra month, 17 we're up to now?
Mm-hmm.
Not one illegal immigrant has come through our southern border, not one. Uh, and what we are doing, the worst of the worst, we use the expression, I think it's a good ex- -- uh, the killers, 11,888 murderers, many of whom killed more than one pe- -- person, uh, those people are going out very rapidly, very, very fast.
Um, and that's not gonna change.
Mr. President, I just wanna thank you --
Thank you.
-- for all of time and thank you for having me.
Thank you very much, Rob.
Wonderful to see you again.
And you have a great show. I like your show a lot.
Thank you, Mr. President.
Thank you.
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